February 16, 2015

Dr. Dan) Hi there, folks. Welcome to DocTalk. I’m Dr. Dan Thomson and today, we’re gonna have a special guest, Dr. Locke Karriker and he is an Associate Professor and Director of the Swine Medicine Education Center at Iowa State University’s College of Veterinary Medicine. It’s gonna be a great show. We’re glad you joined us and we’ll be back right after the break.

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(Dr. Dan) Hi there, folks. Welcome to DocTalk and, Locke, welcome to the show. (Male) Thanks for having me. (Dr. Dan) Yeah, well it’s a pleasure to have you here. It’s a pleasure to have me at Iowa State University, my alma mater, so. (Male) Absolutely. Welcome back. (Dr. Dan) Thanks and we’re gonna talk today with Dr. Locke Karriker about some things going on here at the Swine Medicine Education Center, which he’s the Director of, and you know, let’s just get right into it. What are some of the things that you’re doing and what exactly is the Swine Medicine Education Center? (Male) Well the Swine Medicine Education Center is a cooperative effort between Iowa State College of Veterinary Medicine and AMVC, which is a practice in Central Iowa. A fairly progressive veterinary practice that also is actively involved in swine management and also does a number of diversified support roles for swine industry, so we originally communicated a vision in 2011, Dr. Pat Howard did about the future of veterinary education relying on centers of specialty where most universities won’t be able to support all of the infrastructure for every species, so made sense to start establishing centers of excellence and he communicated that vision and almost instantly AMVC stepped forward and said we want to be involved, so our structure is Iowa State provides curriculum, structure and organization. We maintain compliance and accreditation with the AVMA. We maintain integration with degree programs. AMVC gives us access to a modern production system and all of the logistics and support around that so that we can get our training done on real, active farms and we can take advantage of naturally occurring production situations to train students. (Dr. Dan) So really you’re providing that hands-on, total production system for the students at Iowa State and not having to put up the bricks and mortar and things to that nature and actually getting them out involved in
industry. (Male) Exactly. What it allows us to do is our curriculum goal would be to be able to demonstrate live and digitally every swine medicine technique and then provide students a place to practice that, not just Iowa State students, but students all over the U.S. and what our cooperation with AMVC allows us to do is they ultimately influence about a hundred and twenty-five million port meals and, so, they have all the infrastructure associated with that and we can get students involved in every aspect of it, transportation, the logistics, choosing vaccination regimens, responding to disease outbreak when that occurs and exposure to all phases or production and all types of production equipment and, so, it gives them a realistic venue to diagnose and treat and handle veterinary issues. (Dr. Dan) The things that we didn’t have when we went through the Veterinary School. It seemed like those were the types of things we learned our first year out of veterinary school. (Male) Right, exactly and that does feel it adds some practice background and so do my colleagues here that work on the swine at Iowa State and then our connection with AMVC, I mean, it keeps us right in the forefront of what the critical issues are and what things we need to address. (Dr. Dan) Well it’s an outstanding program. Look forward to learning more. We’re gonna take a break and when we come back from the break, we’ll have more with Dr. Locke Karriker here at Iowa State University’s College of Veterinary Medicine.

(Dr. Dan) Hi there, folks. Welcome back to DocTalk. Dr. Dan Thomson here with Dr. Locke Karriker who is an Associate Professor here at the College of Veterinary Medicine at Iowa State University and the Director of the Swine Medicine Education Center and when we left, we were kind of talking about that what we’re trying to get done with the students in here and, so, maybe you can elaborate a little bit more about some of the programs and the key concepts and things to the nature that you’re promoting within the education process. (Male) Yup. The advantage that we have by taking more of our training to the field, especially in that fourth year of veterinary education, we’re working directly with producers and clients on their issues and it allows us to address those issues in their natural context where issues like welfare and human resources and antimicrobial use are all directly interconnected and they’re really not concepts that can be addressed independently because they all influence each other and unfortunately up until that point when you’re in the classroom, you tend to take individual ideas and train on those ideas and it’s really important for students to see the complexity of all of it together. I think you mentioned before the break that we kind of learned and passed those things during our first year because that’s the first time you were immersed in
the system and all its complexity and, so, our goal is to get swine interested students exposed to that beforehand so that they understand some of those relationships and how they have to consider to broader contexts when they’re addressing disease and things like that. (Dr. Dan) Yeah, absolutely. It amazed me when I got out into practice and learned that things that occur on Friday and Saturday can affect what happens on Monday with the health of the animals and it might not have anything to do with it, just the human interaction and management and weather and different things that you can’t control. (Male) Absolutely and I think getting immersed in those is the best way to learn about them and we learn as instructors too and an interesting side note about working in this environment is a lot of times the students, when they’re out investigating and asking questions, they get more information then you or I would get out on a farm because the producers enjoy sharing what they do with the students and helping them learn and pointing things out and there have been many situations where the students come back with more information about the case then I probably would have gotten if I would have been out on the farm, so a lot of benefits there. (Dr. Dan) It’s hard to imagine all the things, the complexity that go into production and the simplicity of production until you’ve been out in it and really starting to key in on the things that can make a big impact. We tend to sit there and argue about which vaccine or, you know, which four-color add we see when it’s pretty minimal on making that choice. (Male) Yeah and often times there’s a lot more benefit to helping people figure out how to apply and implement in the system, I mean, in a complex system, having the right vaccine or treatment is really a small portion of the battle. The rest is figuring out how to get it done when you’re dealing with weather constraints or how do you recognize a new disease like some of the issues we’re dealing with now and figuring out producers do that is critical. (Dr. Dan) Yeah. Well we’re gonna take another break and when we come back, we’ll discuss more into some of the different things that you’re seeing now in current production and some of the problems and issues and how you’re handling them. (Male) Yup. (Dr. Dan) Thanks for being here, Locke, and thank you for watching DocTalk. We’re gonna take a break. More with Dr. Locke Karriker from Iowa State University in just a minute.

(Dr. Dan) Folks, welcome back to DocTalk. Dr. Dan Thomson here with Dr. Locke Karriker, who’s the Director of the Swine Medicine Education Center here at Iowa State University and as we were talking during the break and during our discussions today, you know, PED’s a pretty big deal. (Male) Yeah. (Dr. Dan) And it’s kind of hard to talk about anything else when everybody wants to figure out what’s going on with that. (Male) Yeah, it really is and it’s something that’s worked its way into just about everything we do day-to-day here. We’re actively involved in research to try to figure out interventions, whether that’s from a biosecurity or disinfectant perspective or survivability of the virus. The Diagnostic Lab here working on testing and detection methods and strategies and it’s
really highlighted the advantage of this collaborative effort with AMVC because, and other producers and clients that we work with, we’ve really been in the middle of this process the entire time as it’s gone along and our students have learned right along with us as veterinarians and faculty what the clinical presentations are and asking questions about how it’s moving and how to detect it, so it’s been a unique opportunity to witness that and to be engaged in teaching essentially in real time as this outbreak has occurred. (Dr. Dan) Tell me a little bit about the clinical signs and what you see in these piglets when they cecum to this diarrhea virus. (Male) Well what we’re seeing clinically is a fairly devastating diarrhea that ultimately leads to a significant dehydration of the piglets
and that results in shock that they just don’t survive and, so, we see
incredibly high mortalities. It’s not uncommon for farms to fail to wean pigs for several weeks even and, so, the pigs that do survive for a period of time after the initial outbreak or challenged and, so, they require more attention to detail in terms of effort, environment and feed management and those things to get them started shortly after weaning, so there’s certainly been that direct impact on the pigs. It’s been a pretty significant challenge I think for employees and producers form a moral standpoint. We don’t have all the answers we need to control it yet and, so, we’re working to gain those, but I think it’s frustrating for producers right now and they feel like they don’t have a very good tool set to stop spread of the virus and, so, we feel a pretty significant sense of urgency here to try and find those tools and get those to producers so that they can move back to more normal operations before we had the PED issue to deal with. (Dr. Dan) It’s hard to imagine, you know, we have great biosecurity
in our systems and it just kind of teaches you we always can continue to get a little bit better every day. (Male) Absolutely, absolutely. I think the one, if there’s a positive to this circumstance it’s that it has really required us to question everything. I think every aspect of production, biosecurity, housing equipment, personnel management is under the microscope right now and that’s how an industry grows and develops and becomes better at what they do, so it’s unfortunate we have to have a challenge to do that, but that’s something positive that will come out of it. (Dr. Dan) Well it’s leadership like what you’re supplying and leadership that your program supply that is just invaluable to our industries and we really appreciate that. (Male) Well thanks. (Dr. Dan) We’re gonna take another break. When we come back, we’ll have our final segment here with Dr. Locke Karriker from Iowa State University’s College of Veterinary Medicine.

(Dr. Dan) Folks, welcome back to DocTalk. Dr. Dan Thomson here with Dr. Locke Karriker and we’re at the College of Veterinary Medicine at Iowa State Unriveted talking about a tremendous program and a National Center of Excellence that’s been established here at Iowa State University and is being directed by Dr. Karriker, the Swine Medicine Education Center, so, you know, when we were talking, you said, you know, one thing about it, it isn’t just for Iowa State. This is a National, International Center of Excellence. (Male) Exactly. We’re relatively new, but in the short period of time that we’ve been around, last calendar year, for example, we provided a little over thirteen thousand student contact hours, sorry thirty thousand student contact hours. We have post-doctoral students who are working on applied research. We’ve had visiting veterinary students from seventeen of the domestic veterinary schools in North America and then veterinary students and graduate veterinarians from twenty-seven different countries that have visited for training and we’ve actively presented training in other countries as well, so we feel like it is an international resource. We want it to be a national and international resource and the great thing about it is when students come to Iowa State from other schools, the help us raise the bar locally. I mean, it’s a win-win situation for us. It’s not a one-way flow of information because students have to work to get here. There’s travel. They have to pay additional tuition, in some cases, if we don’t get it sponsored and, so, they make a big effort to get here and they’re serious about the training when they get
here. (Dr. Dan) How do they get a hold of you? I mean what’s the best way to contact, to go on the web? (Male) Yup, go on the web, www.smec.iastate.edu will get you to our website. You’re welcome to email me directly and all my contact information is on that Iowa State website. If you search for Swine Medicine Education Center, you’ll find our website and if you can just initiate contact, we can take it from there and find a spot for folks. (Dr. Dan) Wow. Well I think it’s incredible and I think that you’re right and not everybody can provide everything and, so, kind of collaborating and getting, I’m gonna be excited to get some of the K-State students up here
and participate in this because it really sounds like a tremendous
opportunity. (Male) Yup. (Dr. Dan) Any final comment about the program as we wrap-up the show? (Male) Well I appreciate you having me on the program and getting the chance to talk about the center. We’re really, really excited about the center. It’s growing and there’s a lot of interest and there’s a lot of enthusiasm, fun to work with motivated students and hopefully in the long-run, we improve the health and welfare of pigs. I mean that’s really what we’re about at the end of the day and, so, I appreciate the opportunity to talk about that. (Dr. Dan) I think it gets back to whenever we look at the consumers view of pork products, beef products, health is the center to animal welfare, food safety, sustainability and that’s what we do every day. (Male) Absolutely, absolutely. I think that’s why we talk about number of meals impacted because it really is about directly impacting consumers that way. (Dr. Dan) Well thanks for being here today. You did a great job. (Male) Thanks for having me. (Dr. Dan) Thank you for watching DocTalk. If you want to know more about what we do, you can find us on the web at www.doctalktv.com. Be
sure to always work with your local practitioner. We’ve enjoyed having you here watching DocTalk. I’m Dr. Dan Thomson. Thanks for joining us and I’ll see you down the road.

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